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Forum => Talk => Topic started by: AccessOfficer on 28 Nov 2012 08:17AM

Title: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: AccessOfficer on 28 Nov 2012 08:17AM
27 November 2012 – Work Programme is getting people working
Tens of thousands of long-term unemployed are getting off benefits and into jobs through the Government's Work Programme, new figures have revealed.

The Government figures published today show that at least 56 per cent of the scheme’s earliest participants have come off benefits, with 19 per cent spending at least six consecutive months off benefits.
Ha - Ha - Ha and Ho - Ho - Ho ---Good for a laugh init!

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/newsroom/press-releases/2012/nov-2012/dwp128-12.shtml

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/work-programme-first-year.pdf

Regards
AO

Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: JLRRAC on 28 Nov 2012 08:30AM
Dr Goebbels is live and kicking eh?  >erm<
Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: devine63 on 28 Nov 2012 09:55AM
But why did the Work Programme have targets which involve getting just over 5% of claimants into work?   What about the other 95%?  Why was the taxpayer getting such poor value for money from the original deal?   And then on top of that the companies failed to reach their target and only actually found work for just over 3% of claimants ...
regards, Deb
Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: JLRRAC on 28 Nov 2012 10:08AM
Forgive me poor maths but if it has cost or they are spending 5.5 billion on 5% that makes it around 110 billion to see the other 95% helped back into work, right?

As I say forgive my lack of maths >doh<
Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: seegee on 28 Nov 2012 06:24PM
Fewer than 1 in 5 spend at least 6 (consecutive) months off benefits, and that's a success? >doh<
Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: JLRRAC on 28 Nov 2012 07:29PM
I managed to boil an egg once, couldn't do it again no matter how hard I tried >erm< is that a success or failure? :-)
Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: auntieCtheM on 28 Nov 2012 11:21PM
Just for the record, didn't they also say that 1 in 5 people would have naturally found themselves work anyway.  No intervention required.

It is great for those people who did get a lot of support and have got proper permanent jobs.  But what about the rest of the long-term unemployed?

They do say that the next set of figures will be better (ie massaged?)
Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: devine63 on 29 Nov 2012 01:58AM



"Fewer than 1 in 5 spend at least 6 (consecutive) months off benefits, and that's a success?"

"Just for the record, didn't they also say that 1 in 5 people would have naturally found themselves work anyway.  No intervention required.  It is great for those people who did get a lot of support and have got proper permanent jobs.  But what about the rest of the long-term unemployed?    They do say that the next set of figures will be better (ie massaged?)"

Not 1 in 5, it's a lot worse than that!!!!   1 in 5 is 20% (20 per hundred).

The work programme actually found work lasting at least 6 months for just 3 or 4 people per hundred (the percentage is three point something).    The were only expected to find work lasting at least 6 months for 5 per 100, the other 95 per hundred were not expected to find work lasting at least 6 months (though they may have found a job lasting less than 6 months) .  So if the "natural" rate of job finding is 20%, then it would be much much better to leave people to find their own work!!!!

regards, Deb



Title: Re: DWP: Work Programme is getting people working
Post by: JLRRAC on 29 Nov 2012 09:06AM
"They do say that the next set of figures will be better (ie massaged?)"

Aye that they will, they'll use a better quality of oil >biggrin<