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« Reply #30 on: 12 Apr 2013 08:02PM »
The first vaccinations for smallpox originated from cows suffering from cowpox.  These days it would not be allowed! 


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« Reply #31 on: 13 Apr 2013 03:40PM »
I was trying not to refer to the racist comments that have been thrown in the way of blood transfusion - "I'm not having that if it came from a Black/White person!" 

I personally like to think that my religion can move with the times and not be stuck in the rules written 3000 years ago,  To be honest, I am worried what the writers of the Bible would say about people communicating instantly across thousands of miles like this.  There's nothing in the bible about tobacco in the bible, so is it demonic?  There's no mention of electricity in the bible, so should we have lights in the house?  There's no mention of Trains, organ transplant, artificial insemination or telephones in the bible, so does this mean we should not use them?

I agree people should be entitled to their own view, but in the main, the decision to not have the children innoculated with the MMR vaccine was that there was a small possibility of a severe side effect which has since been disproven.  The possibility was so slight that the risk of getting measles or mumps was actually higher than the chance of the side effect which IIRC was autism.  My choice, for my child would have been to immunise. 

I had not heard of the "Aborted Foetus Cell" argument before this thread, and if it were true, then I think the Pro-life lobby and the Roman Catholic Church would have advised against immunisation.  I don't remember my priest sermonising about not immunising.

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« Reply #32 on: 20 Apr 2013 04:31PM »
Apparently, the foetus tissue came from abortions in the 1960's and no new fetal tissue is needed to produce cell lines to make these vaccines, now or in the future:-

Some vaccines, including the Mumps Measles Rubella (MMR) vaccine, contain killed viruses. The viruses are cultured in aborted fetal tissue. Regarding the MMR vaccine, the CDC states:

The rubella vaccine virus is cultured in human cell-line cultures, and some of these cell lines originated from aborted fetal tissue, obtained from legal abortions in the 1960's. No new fetal tissue is needed to produce cell lines to make these vaccines, now or in the future. Fetal tissue is not used to produce vaccines; cell lines generated from a single fetal tissue source are used; vaccine manufacturers obtain human cell lines from FDA-certified cell banks. After processing, very little, if any, of that tissue remains in the vaccine.
So if there is any tiny residual cellular material in a vaccine, it is from cell lines. Although those cell lines originated in aborted fetal tissue decades ago, there is no aborted fetal tissue itself in the vaccine.
For those who are still uncomfortable with this revelation, it might be helpful to know that the Vatican has actually taken a stand on the issue. The Vatican's Pontifical Academy for Life issued a statement in 2005 saying that it is wrong to make vaccines using aborted fetal tissue and that such practices should no longer be employed, however, it is acceptable to use vaccines developed from abortions that were carried out decades ago, because immunizations play a vital role in protecting life by preventing illness and death.

In part, when referring to concerns over the production of vaccines, the academy states: "...the burden of this important battle cannot and must not fall on innocent children and on the health situation of the population - especially with regard to pregnant women."

The Catholic Church and others concerned about the use of aborted fetuses in the development of vaccinations support alternative vaccines that have been prepared using animal as opposed to human tissues and cells. In some cases such alternative vaccinations are already available. If you want to learn more about alternatives or have specific concerns, contact your pediatrician for further information.