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Fiz

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Wheelchairs
« on: 13 Jan 2020 08:09AM »
I'm considering purchasing a wheelchair. It would be for me to use to get about occasionally as well as when I'm  with someone who can push. I'd like some advice on what to look for.

I have browsed guides online and feel that I need to choose non puncturing tyres despite the ride being less comfortable because I don't have anyone to help me mend punctures and what happens if you're out in it when a puncture occurs?

Sometimes my back is too painful for me to walk but I am worried that if I then revert to a wheelchair it might be as painful for my back propelling it myself? But I guess that I won't find that out until it happens. But I might be as stuck in the wheelchair as without if unable to propel myself due to pain but standing is excruciating and at least I would be sat down when otherwise there are often no places to sit when I reach the end of my rope with pain. So if stuck somewhere due to pain at least I'd always be seated. Can one usually find wheelchair accessible taxis? That would reassure me about ending up stuck somewhere though often I only take cards with me rather than cash and my rare instances of using taxis they've not accepted cards so I would need to be better prepared.

My daughter has often voiced her wish that I had a wheelchair as we're so limited in places we can go when I visit her because of the short distances that I can walk before it gets too painful to continue. I'm also worried that the person pushing me might end up straining themselves as I'm not light?

I'm worried about the weight of the wheelchair. It's going to have to be very light if there is any chance of me being able to get it in or out of the car though I won't need it at home so it could stay in the car and often there'll be someone at my destination who could get it out of the car and set it up for me.

I'm going on holiday with a friend to support her with her severe mental health issues, she's not been on holiday for years because of her health so is very excited about the holiday. She's physically able though so could help with the wheelchair hence me finally biting the bullet and considering purchasing my own chair because I think I will need it on holiday.

Any advice on manufacturers and other things to look out for appreciated too.

Thank you.

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« Reply #1 on: 13 Jan 2020 10:42AM »
Ryan and I both have wheelchairs provided by the NHS, We keep them in the shed as we don't need them everyday. When I came out of Hossy a couple of years ago , I used it more but not in the house,
It wouldn't fit through the hall so I would have to move if I ever need it indoors !!! >crying<

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« Reply #2 on: 14 Jan 2020 09:38AM »
How long is it before your holiday and do you have a budget to spend? I ask because if there is enough time I think you should get in touch with your local Wheelchair Service there is more information on this link www.mstrust.org.uk/a-z/wheelchair-services#nhs-wheelchair-services. If they do wheelchair vouchers you are allowed to have the amount the wheelchair they would buy for you costs to go towards the cost of a new wheelchair. Back in around 2010 I got £865 towards a chair that I bought from Bromakin that cost £1400. Back then I was more able to drive and needed a light weight chair that came apart easily so I got one of these www.bromakin.co.uk/index.php/products/wheelchairs/lightweight-rigid/bromakin-titanium-xl which I still use with the Powertrike.

When I lived up north I was allocated a folding chair in the late 1990s and it was okay but difficult to move once folded and there was no way I could safely get it into the car. Also the foot rests were at a different angle to those of rigid chairs so the 'footprint' of the wheelchair was longer. I find solid tyres too bumpy and jarring on on ordinary footpaths and the physical feedback increases my spasms and pain so I have airfilled tyres. You could get those and put the anti punture goo in them.

If you are going to be somewhere that will have a lot of walking so for you a lot of being pushed about you might want to look into renting an electric wheelchair. 
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« Reply #3 on: 14 Jan 2020 07:39PM »
My wheelchair was free from the social services.  To date, over the years, I’ve had three.  The one I use at the moment is a dash.  It’s light weight, and, easy to fold.  However, it’s not self propelling, as we would be unable to get it into the boot of the car.  I also have a mobility scooter, which means I have more independence when shopping in malls etc. There’s always mobility scooters for sale second hand if you shop around, you could get one quite cheaply. 

The only problem I have with mobility scooters is getting up and down kerbs.  Where I live, there’s not many drop kerbs.  Also, due to the lack of car park spaces, we have inconsiderate neighbours who either park on the pavements, or, half on the the kerb/pavements and road.  Therefore, I’m unable to go out in the mobility scooter independently near by. If we do go out, and, I’m in the wheelchair, my husband often has to push me on the road, due to the above,  Therefore, I’d consider asking the social services to assess you for a wheelchair, and, try using one first before parting with your money.  You should be fitted for one, which the social services will do for free, to make sure the wheelchair is comfortable, and, suitable for your needs.




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« Reply #4 on: 14 Feb 2020 12:22PM »
In my area wheelchair services will only give a chair if needed both indoors and outdoors so maybe better off trying Social Services . If it is just for occasional use when out it might be best just to buy a cheap folding chair off the net -even Argos sell them !. Nearly all are basic copies of the classic Everest & Jennings with with the addition of quick release whhels .
PS check weight before purchasing .

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« Reply #5 on: 15 Feb 2020 12:59PM »
I have this wheelchair https://www.careco.co.uk/item-s-wc01035/wc-wc01-self-propelled-wheelchairs/g-lite-pro-self-propelled-wheelchair/
The footplates are removable so are the seat and back rest covers. The main wheels can be removed with the press of a button in the centre of the wheel. The handles fold down and the arm rests are adjustable it is light weight and has puncture proof tyres. This wheelchair can support 135kg and comes in different seat widths.

I had one from social services but was far too heavy so returned it.
« Last Edit: 15 Feb 2020 01:04PM by gus »

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« Reply #6 on: 16 May 2020 01:26PM »
Thanks everyone. I ended up buying a self propelled wheelchair for a reasonable price as I didn't think I would manage the holiday without one. Of course now the holiday is cancelled due to Covid-19 so the wheelchair is still in its box partly blocking my hall! I need to sort out my shed so that I can store it. Although I have bought an adjustable height and width table ideal for use with wheelchairs and had thought that I could use both in the kitchen because I didn't have a table. But I opened the box to the table and was stunned by the amount of pieces and know putting it together is was beyond me. So that will have to wait a few months until somebody can help me with it.

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« Reply #7 on: 28 Jan 2021 02:22AM »
I ended up selling that wheelchair as it was hopeless for me as my back is too damaged for me to be able to propel a wheelchair myself and I have no one to push me.


I'm opioid free now in the hope my pituitary gland will recover so I am in considerably more pain and I can do far less. Very thankful for the stool occupational health delivered the day after I requested it via adult services so I can now do bits in the kitchen and the stair lift and the wet room.


So I am back to thinking about transport out and about. Because my spine is better upright I am thinking an electric wheelchair is best. I'd want it to travel a fair distance per charge. My Motability lease is due to end in July and I have been looking at vehicles that would take the scooters/wheelchairs that I have been looking at. Unfortunately all the ones that I have liked so far would require a LWB van type vehicle and I live in a meandering close with no turning space at the end where my house is and I don't think that I could reverse it weaving left and right around vehicles and around bends so I am not wanting a vehicle no longer than an MPV so I am told I need to find a smaller electric wheelchair. I guess I need one that will fold then if it's to be hoisted into an MPV. I'd need the chair to be stable and not easy tip going up and down kerbs.


I don't see people going around town centres in electric wheelchairs. People tend to use scooters but I know that I would lean forward and that would hurt if I had handle bars.


Any thoughts, suggestions or advice welcome.

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« Reply #8 on: 28 Jan 2021 12:14PM »
This website has a large selection of powerchairs, lightweight and folding, which may be a starting point for looking further for the model you want. I would recommend you try it out before buying as it's a big expense and you need to make sure it's comfortable and easy for you to take apart.


https://www.mobilitysmart.co.uk/wheelchairs/electric-wheelchairs.html




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« Reply #9 on: 02 Feb 2021 11:46AM »
Thank you DD. I think I have settled on a Lith-Tech one because I have been reading various review web articles and it seems to do quite well in all of them. Not sure when I will order it because I am not due a Motability vehicle change until July and will get a vehicle and hoist then. The car adaptions company said that I would need to fold the powerchair before it is hoisted into the vehicle but I can't bend to it so would want the hoist to lift the chair up before I fold it so that's complicated and I just hope that's possible.

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« Reply #10 on: 23 Feb 2021 03:10PM »
Ouch Too.org being out of order meant the last time I posted to this thread was over a year ago so I am adding a catch up post.

For me whether I am using my Motability scooter or wheelchair is the way that many local footpaths have dropped kerbs which means the camber of the footpath is continually affecting my body position and muscle spasms which can easily affect steering. For me nothing has beaten going in the car to cycleways and getting out and about in the countryside. I am lucky to have a Mr Sunshine who does the local shopping etc. 

Fiz,

Have you been hands on this a Lith Tech? Did you like a particular model?

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« Reply #11 on: 05 Mar 2021 03:10PM »
In the end I decided that I can't afford one. My Motability lease ends in July and the AP for automatics is now ridiculously high. The car I paid £399 for in 2018 is £2499 now and unaffordable. I am definitely going to have to spend what little I have on the AP for a new vehicle which means no powerchair for now. If my current car met my needs I would extend the lease but it's too low now I have had back surgery and vertibrae removed and I need a higher up position to get in and out of. I will attempt to have saved up enough for a powerchair by the time the next lease needs renewing in 2024. Until then the family can go on walks without me.

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« Reply #12 on: 10 Mar 2021 11:39AM »
Have you had an assessment by the social services, and, wheelchair assessment centre?   I met the criteria for equipment, and a wheelchair.   I was fitted for one at the above centre.   While there, I noticed they had an array of powered wheelchairs in the room.  At the moment I don’t need one.  As well as using my mobility scooter.  I have someone to push my ordinary standard chair.  I can wholly sympathise with Fiz plight. I’d be in the exact same situation if I didn’t have the help and care from my other half.  Therefore, If I were you, and, you haven’t already done so,  I’d seek help from the aids and appliance group from your local council, and, social services.

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« Reply #13 on: 10 Mar 2021 01:54PM »
I've been chasing up a request that I made to Adult Services for a health care assessment on November 22nd. I phoned again mid December having not heard anything. I did get a phone call from them on Christmas Eve asking if I still wanted an assessment. Er yes, my conditions are permanent? They said they would phone me in the new year. Other professionals have chased up my request for an assessment in the last two or three weeks. I had an adrenal crisis on the Sunday and injected myself which rallied me until the Tuesday then I went into hypersomnia due to low cortisol and slept until Friday lunchtime, just waking up briefly every few hours and swallowing my steroids and antibiotics before sleeping again. Friday lunchtime I managed to find the strength to sit up and drink half a glass of water though it caused gastric pain as my cortisol levels were clearly still low. I then started recovering bit by bit daily
 
It was very scary being on my own and unable to even sit up for 3 days. I definitely need support. I have phoned Adult Services and the call gets answered by someone working at home. She read my notes and said she can't understand why the assessment team haven't contacted me yet. She's sent another computerised request for assessment through to them for me. Apparently they are meant to contact me within 3 days but I have been waiting for a response since November 22nd it's just as well I didn't go into a coma a couple of weeks back. I think Adult Services assume everybody has someone they can call on but some of us don't. 

So when they eventually assess me I will mention my mobility problems.

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« Reply #14 on: 02 May 2021 11:46AM »
Well the APs on automatics came down drastically on April 1st so I have ordered a new lease car with electric hoist and will probably choose a Pride Igo plus electric wheelchair which folds well and fits in the boot of a compact SUV. 

Ideally I would like to try one out but the local mobility aids stockests don't sell Pride chairs but I will do more searching. I'm wanting to know how the chair manages kerbs, door sills etc If there's a door sill the chair struggles with, there's no way an able bodied person could help as the electric chair has no handles or does it have no handles because the chairs manage door sills and kerbs with no problems? 

I am looking forward to getting a chair, it's been a long time coming. In a way I feel guilty because I can physically walk but the pain I am in when standing or walking very slowly is indescribable. I currently dread meeting someone I know because they will want to stand and chat and that causes so much pain that I make excuses to leave as soon as possible but with the chair I will be able to converse and be sociable. And go shopping and queue for the till. All sorts of things that I can't do currently. The car is actually ordered so if the Pride Igo plus isn't suitable then I need to find a foldable alternative chair that fits the car that I have ordered!